HP Episode 12 Body Image Baggage
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[00:00:00] Uh, have you been working out lately? Oh my gosh, I have been actually and my brother really helped me get into it. Um, and yeah, it's been going. He just started that podcast really awkwardly. I like it. It's like someone just, I like someone just like walked into our conversation, having a conversation. But I feel like I've been Hey everyone.
Hello!
Hello! Hi! Oh my gosh, we didn't we didn't see you in there. How was your workout? How was your workout today? Oh my gosh. No. Yeah. It just felt awkward. It felt weird. I had to restart. That's so funny. I love it. I love it. It's been going, it's been going really good. Um, my brother's really been helping me get into it and so I've been going every single day to the gym in my apartment.
And I've been doing some weights and I've been doing some cardio and then I do some like, [00:01:00] pool. Work afterwards as well, um, which is really cool. So it's been going really well. I just really wish that everybody could have seen your cool moves. You just, oh man, that's right. We did. It was very fancy. Like a pool of aerobic.
Yes. Aqua rope. What's it called? Aqua size. Oh, I like that. But yeah, so I, so I've been doing that and it's been going really good and I've been feeling really great about myself. Um, but it's interesting because I posted on my Facebook, my personal Facebook, um, yesterday or the day before, after a workout and I was like in the mirror at home and I was like covered in sweat and I posted a picture and I was like, I struggle with my body image and, like, the words that I say to myself about my body.
Um, Same. I think a lot of people do. Oh, many. But it's like, I've, I'm really [00:02:00] working on focusing on how I'm feeling. And I'm feeling good. I'm feeling... I'm feeling healthier. I'm feeling stronger. All those things. So I'm really trying to focus more on that and not as much on like what my body looks like or how much I weigh or anything like that.
Um, because yeah, it's like I go to the gym and I do all this and I'm like covered in sweat and I feel really good and then I come home and take a shower and I look at myself and I'm like, uh, And it's like I start that like negative talk about myself, you know, and so it's really a difficult, it's really a difficult and a really interesting thing to kind of work through as an adult.
It is. And it's so, it's so, like, I'm sure that most people listening to this can relate in some way, shape, or form, like, whether it's you personally, or maybe it was one of your parents growing up that you noticed some of this type [00:03:00] of thing, like, Okay, so I have two thoughts. One, my experience growing up, well, it was...
Um, you know, my mom was always really focused on like moving her body and being healthy. Yeah, and she had like slim, fast shakes, but I never really heard her talking about trying to lose weight. My dad, on the other hand, and his brother, um, I'm still pretty... Still doesn't feel good. I've tried to like do some work around it in therapy and release it.
But like, um, they would comment on my body all the time. And like my dad at one point said, um, like I, so I have very strong legs. Like my legs are. I have very muscular legs, and it always has been that way. Like, I have a picture of me when I was three, standing on my tiptoes next to a fence, like in a petting zoo.
And you can see the outline of my little calf [00:04:00] muscles, because I was on my tippy toes. Like, it's the cutest picture ever, because no, like, three year old has jacked calf muscle. Right, totally. But I did. And my dad, at one point when I was in eighth grade, I was in the car and I had on shorts, and I was just, like, waiting, like, in the line to get out of the car, and he goes, It looks like your thighs are getting kind of big.
And then my uncle said something about, because I love doughnuts and I've always loved doughnuts, and he's like, if you eat too many doughnuts, you're going to get fat. And it's like, those comments have stayed with me forever. And the one that my dad even said, like, it caused me to not eat. And I ended up losing a lot of weight because I didn't eat enough calories and then had teachers commenting on my weight because I was too thin.
And so [00:05:00] it's just so difficult. And with like social media, like it's just perpetuated. 10 million times worse for the children in our world totally now, but there also are people doing such good work on social media, trying to, like, combat that in their comment section, like, there's so much shaming around bodies, but the other thing.
That really, as a parent of four kids, like, I've tried to be very cognizant of, like, what I say in front of them and what I do and what I, all those things. It's like a never ending, like, mental thing. Um, I think that what really woke me up once was... My, uh, family member. I don't want to like call out people.
Um, I know, right? My, she, like, so it was somebody that I'm related to. She was a little girl and she [00:06:00] said, um, my mom won't take us to that restaurant because only fat people eat there. Yeah. And I was like, Oh my God, what is it? What does this person say to this child? What kind of, what it, so that happened when my kids were really little and like, maybe my oldest was five.
And so from that point on, I just was like, I really need to. I mean, I would never say anything like that. That's not who I am. Um, but, and, and, the other interesting thing is, too, is when, so now I'm in a two household family, and my ex... My partner has a new person in his life and she, my, my 12 year old daughter will come home and say, she eats like her eating habits are so weird.
She never eats mom. And it's like, like [00:07:00] they'll have whole meals and she won't eat anything. And so it's so hard because you can do so much as an, as a parent and a trusted adult in a child's life. But there's so much more out there. Totally. So how do we, how do we, as early childhood educators and parents, how do we raise them up knowing that they're beautiful the way they are and that healthy is the goal?
Like, how do we do that when there's so many outside messages? So many. And that's the thing too, right? You can't, you can't control a lot of those outside messages, right? Even if you're like, Don't watch anything. Don't, it doesn't matter, right? All these messages are going to get to them and it's really, and it's interesting too, because you hear things like you hear people like nicknames for kids, like, you know, I hear like fat, fat stuff like that a lot.
Right. [00:08:00] And it's like, yeah, that's really like you're saying it in like a QA, but it's already a thing. And there was, I remember one year I had this boy in my class. And he was like four I think and he was pretty, he was like a bigger boy and we were having lunch and he was like really enjoying the food and I asked him if he wanted more and he said my dad said I can't have seconds.
I can't eat anymore because I'm too big. Literally. And I was like, so then, so then me, I was like, you can eat anything you want in here. You can have whatever you want. You're, you know, all the, I'm trying to like stay all the amazing things, like make him feel better. Right. But it just like really got me thinking like.
There's so many facets to that, right? Because it's like, I assume that a parent would say something like that, and I know it's weird to say, but like, maybe in a way of like, they, they want to protect their child from like, [00:09:00] being that way and getting, there's so many different things that go into that, right?
But it's like, the fact that those are things that children are saying about themselves is just like, right. Wild to think, but then you sit back and you think, oh, I kind of say stuff about, I say stuff to myself about that, you know, about myself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. I do it too. I think a lot of people do.
And I think, so, okay, I'll finish my thought on that and then I'm going to tell you another thing that just remembered that came from the same little girl's mouth. Yes. Okay. So, um, I don't remember. What were you talking about? Boy, that's it. He couldn't have second after that. And then I said, like, the parents might be saying it to like, protect, be protective.
They don't want them to get made fun of. And then I was like, but then we say, you have to recap the whole conversation for me. I memory. I don't know. [00:10:00] I'll go on to what they look. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. At one point, too. She was really low, probably the same age. And she goes, There was a, we were like on a train ride somewhere, just like a fun, like little kids train ride thing.
And there was a whole bunch of adults on there too. And there was a, uh, a woman that has a larger body size. And, um, my, this person, this little girl said, Oh, she must eat a lot of cookies. And then nobody really said anything. And the woman could probably hear her. And then she's like, my mom said that if you eat too many cookies, you'll get fat.
I know. Okay. And then I have to tell you this. So, this just happened. This conversation happened yesterday. Um, it's, it's amazing how much of our life revolves around your body. I mean, it's like a vehicle in life. So, of course, there's going to be a lot around it, right? It's like, Yeah. Your vehicle. So, [00:11:00] it's, What you have.
It's like, I don't know. So that's why I'm sure it's such a huge thing. So, um, my nine year old son, we were watching, I don't know, Dr. Pimple Popper. And, um, we love that show. We watch it all the time together. But all of a sudden he goes, Mom, is it bad to be fat? And I was like, no, I mean, there can be some health problems associated with like being overweight and, um, you know, it's really good to take care of your body and eat healthy things so that your body stays healthy for a long time.
And he goes, so like, is it bad to have a really fat belly? And I was like, Oh, I said, Well, because he's, I mean, he's like, he's got a larger body frame for Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, um, I was like, No, that is so like, [00:12:00] when you're a little kid, you don't have to worry about that at all. It's like, your body is still growing and it's still learning about the world and it like needs so much energy and like, Yeah.
That's not something, like, that you have to worry about at all, and, um, and he was just like, okay, like, yeah, yeah, and the other, so I lift weights. I've lifted weights since my kids were little. I have a whole room in my house that's actually meant to be a dining room off. It's like a wing off of my kitchen.
But it's my whole weight room, like I have all the free weights and barbells and dumbbells and kettlebells and a peloton. And I have always lifted weights since my kids were little, and so it's just part of my life, um, and they know it. And they've just seen me do that. Oh, like their whole lives. So it's not something that I like start and stop [00:13:00] to get my body to be the way that I want it to be.
And then quit and then restart. Not where I want to be again. You know, it's just a healthy habit. So, um, I have my, uh, 15 year old son. I've like, there were so many times where over the last two years, I'd be like, you want to work out with me. You want to work out with me? You want to lift weights? And the answer was always no, no, no, no, no.
And then, um, this morning, I haven't asked him for like six months. Cause that was just, there was so many no's. And this morning I asked him just like out of the blue, like, Hey, you want to work? You want me to teach you how to lift weights? And he's like, yes. And I was like, Oh my gosh. Okay. Workout starts in 20 minutes.
Go get ready. Yeah, totally. I was so excited to be able to show him all the things that I know and like it was so fun working alongside him like teaching him just the real [00:14:00] basics of dumbbells and kettlebells so I just wish that it was It could be that positive all of the time and I feel like maybe that's all we need to be doing is modeling healthy behaviors if we want that in, if you have children or you have, you care for children in any way, shape, or form.
You just have to model healthy behavior as I have my diet rip here sitting right in front of me. Um, and, and also. Make sure that they know that they're amazing beings, no matter what their vehicle in life looks like, you know? Yes, exactly. And it's like, you know, this...
I don't know. It's there's so much to unpack with like why things are that [00:15:00] way because it's like yes, there is there has been a lot of positive forward movement in terms of like media portrayal of like body positivity and things like that. But there's still so much. There's still, I don't know, there's still so many things, especially like in the language that we use that we maybe don't think, we think is positive or we don't think kind of feeds into that, but it's like, even when you take a person who, you know, had a larger body and they worked out and they lost weight, and then it's this huge thing of like, you're so, you look so great, you're so beautiful, you look so great, congratulations, and it's like, Ooh.
And it's like, you know, you kind of, yeah, you kind of do the joke. Like, yeah, I knew I was cute. I just said I was fat or whatever. Right. Like, it's like, that wasn't those two things don't, and it's interesting because was it, who was it that posted this? It was somebody, I hate when I can't [00:16:00] remember who posted it, but someone posted this and it was like, like a homework sheet from like a kid, like an elementary school kid, and it was like, it was like an analogy and the analogy said, like, It said, it was so good.
It said, it said like something is too smart, like beautiful is too skinny or something like that. It had like language. Oh, God, it was really good. And now it doesn't sound as good because I can't remember the analogy, but it was basically like the words were put together in a way of saying, like, skinny equals pretty and Thank you.
Being bigger equals not being pretty. It was something along those lines. And I think it was like a third grader's homework or something. But it's like, just those, even, even just those ideas that all bodies should be skinny in order to be healthy, like, is, is Incorrect and is like really feeds into that idea of like, [00:17:00] I don't know, everyone's everyone's body is different.
Everyone's body is made differently. You know, it's about having that healthy relationship with your body, having that healthy kind of self talk with your body. And then also, I think like a big part of it for me, at least. It's like that comparison aspect, right, of like, I'm constantly comparing myself to other people, whoever I happen to see at the gym, whoever I happen to see on like, if I'm like looking up like a workout video on how to do a certain thing, right?
Of course, the people are going to look totally like ripped and like amazing, right? And I'm looking at it and I think in my head, like, Oh God, I probably look ridiculous doing this, right? It's those things that we continue to say to ourselves, right? And it's like, We have to be able to work through those things on our own so that we can create something better for the children, you know, because, and it's like a conscious thing, like, Perry and I do it all the time, like, whenever he catches me saying anything like that, he'll be like, nope, [00:18:00] we do not talk like that, do not say that, like, that is not what we're doing, right?
And if I catch him saying something like that, I say the same thing. And it's like, nope, that's not what we're doing. And so it's like catching yourself and like, really like retraining your brain. It's just like wild. Like, I know what I was much of that stuff isn't better. Oh, good, good, good. Okay. I was going to say when we first got on, before we hit record, you said you look really good.
And my immediate reaction, do you, you saw it? I was gonna say Right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right. But then I was like, thank you. Yes. That's all I will say right now. Yes, and that is, that is such a thing. And it's like, because even like, the other day I was working out and I like finished and I took a picture and I like sent it to Perry like, oh god, I'm so exhausted or whatever.
And he was like, babe, you have to be noticing, like, you look, you've been going so much, you look really [00:19:00] great, da da da. And my immediate response was like, thanks, but I don't. Kind of a thing. Right. And it's like, and then that's the thing of like, no. And so it's very, very interesting. And what else is interesting too, is relate like, at least for me, like my relationship with like the scale and my weight and how that equals something to me.
And so it's like, I came back from like working out and like, I weighed myself yesterday, I think the day before, and it was three pounds higher than it was when I had started. Working out and so I immediately got into this spiral of like, well, I guess none of this matters. None of this mattered. I might as well just go back to whatever I was doing.
You know, it's the cycle of like, it's very, very toxic and it's very, very hard to, um, work through and get past and think differently about. But it's like, I [00:20:00] don't know. I don't want. I don't want these kids to think that way about themselves, and I want them to grow up thinking that same way about themself that I'm working through at the same time, right?
And so it's just constantly about It's so hard. It is an everyday thing for me. It's so hard. I've had people tell me, like So many times, like, oh, if only I could have your shape, Krista, like, I would be overjoyed to have what you have. Or, like, somebody that was really close to me the other day didn't know that I struggle, and she was like, I had no idea.
You are so confident, and you carry yourself so confidently, I would never know that about you. And, it's just, it's one of those things, like, one, to recognize that you never know what battle somebody's battling within their brain. And, like, just to be, like, give people [00:21:00] compassion and grace, because you don't know what is happening.
Um. Totally. And. Yeah, it's like, I've gone to therapy over body image, and I've gone to like, positive psychology coaches around body image, and it just... It's so hard, and I think, too, what else just kind of perpetuates it right now for me in my life. Like, this, it's so funny, because this, like, we meant to, like, really loop this into early childhood, and, like, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, like, we're really just talking about our own shit, and, like, I don't know. So, whatever. It's, this is us. This is what, this is part of life. So, um. I, the partner that I'm seeing right now, he grew up, same time I did, and all the images that he saw growing up were skinny [00:22:00] women, like a certain body type that he sees as beautiful.
And so, um, it is. It can be really difficult, like, being around somebody who maybe hasn't done any work around those images and that subconscious. Like, system of, um, what, I don't know. That, all those subconscious thoughts that they don't even know are a thing that is affecting the women in their life. And it doesn't even have to be a woman, like, it can be anybody.
But for me, I'm a woman, so like, it just affects me because he hasn't done a lot of work around that. Right. And so like, I have to work through that with him, like encouraging, hey, like, [00:23:00] yeah. It's there's, it's, it's, it's a lot and it is, it's like a daily thing. And it's interesting to me too, because it's like so many people always just, when we talk about like all these things, people always.
We'll say like, or just act like it's only for, it only affects people who are overweight, right? But it's like this body, this, these body image issues and this body dysmorphia and all these things can affect anybody, anybody in any body type. And I think it's just important. And for me, I try a lot with, with like kids and with people that I know too, is like.
I want to encourage the parts of you that are special that have nothing to do with your body, or have nothing to do with the way that you look, um, [00:24:00] because that's what so much of life is based on, is I mean, even just watching TV, like how many commercials I've seen, like, probably like 12 commercials for like Sonobello and lose that belly fat and lose this and here's this diet pill and here's these things and here's all this and it's like, it's, it's very overwhelming and it's Like a super toxic.
Um, and it can really be, it can really be harmful because it's like, those are the things that we carry. Like you were saying, those things that were said to you, like you still, you brought it up, you know about it, you think about it still, right? And it's like, that's those things. And even like, Even if there are not things that are specifically said to us, right, we're taking in things that are happening around us and what the adults around us are doing, like when I was growing up, my mom was always on diet or always on a different thing.
She [00:25:00] never changed. Anything about what I ate, she never commented on my body, she never said anything like that. But watching her have her own struggle with that, and watching her feel down on herself, and watching her go back and forth, it was, it was feeding me the information that, she may not be saying it directly to me, but that's what, that's the information that I'm getting from it, right?
And it's like, those things... Like really, really stay with you. And it's just, I don't know. And we have such a, we have such a powerful position with these young children to be able to kind of shift so many ideas that are not great that were given to us, but like, especially with like this, we have such a great opportunity to do that.
And that's why, like, I talk about things like. When children are eating meals and snacks at school, like, I'm not in charge of how much you eat, I'm not in charge of when you're done, I'm not in charge of any of these things, like, I want you to understand your [00:26:00] body, your needs, when you feel full, when you feel hungry, when you feel ready, I want it available to you, you need these things, like, taking away this, like, I don't know, because it's a lot.
It's the relationship with your body, it's your relationship with food, um, it's, it's all these different things, and I don't want, I mean, like, like you were saying in the story, like, oh, she eats too many cookies, like, cookies are good, cookies are good, and they're fun to eat, so I don't want, like, them to think that, like, things, it's just, it's just so much, it's so much, There is so much, there's so much to unpack, so let's end this with, um, give, let's wrap it up with, One, what we can do right now with the children in our lives to not perpetuate this problem.
Try our best. It's not, I mean, it's going to happen because there's so much, there's so much like. Trauma around totally with people [00:27:00] our age, um, that it will, it's going to, it's going to be a part of kids lives. We're not going to be able to shelter them from it all ever. Um, so we just need to do what we can do.
And so, what I can do right now in my life is to just let my children and any children that I care for know that they are amazing beings and it does not matter what you look like, what you wear, what your body shell is doing at the moment, Just as long as you're making good choices, and what is good choices?
I mean, we could definitely put that, it, making healthy choices, um, when you can, when you feel like it at this point in time. So that's what I can do. What are you going to do? Um, I think for me, one thing that I can do is [00:28:00] like, be more cognizant of like, the way that I'm talking about myself out loud to other people.
Um, And kind of what I'm perpetuating with that. You too, okay. And then, and then yeah, just like, I think kind of letting go of this, or Helping children to understand their own body and be autonomous with that, and in terms of when they want to eat, what they want to eat, how much they want to eat, um, and kind of try to take my, my control aspect out of that, because that's a big, you know, that was always a big thing too growing up, right?
Like, There's kids starving, you need to eat your food, type of thing, right? I want to get away from like, anything, obviously I don't say that, but it's like, there are other things that we say that could possibly be giving the same message, right? And so it's just all about kind of giving them the power of like, if you're hungry, I have some food for you to eat.
If you're not hungry, you don't need to eat. [00:29:00] If you don't like that, you don't need to eat it. Like, changing that so like, their relationship with food can be a little bit more positive. Love it. Okay, now you have to tell me three things that you love about your body. Ooh, okay. Um, let's see. I also really, well, you didn't say that you love this, but I love my legs.
I have very nice legs, I think, and my legs have always been kind of strong and muscular and nice. I like that. Um, I really like my arms. Um, and I've also lately been noticing, um, I really, I have a lot of, like, freckles. All over my arm, um, which I really, really like, which, I mean, see, I was just gonna say something bad.
See, I was just gonna say, but no, I'm not, oh my gosh, I, I really like the freckles. I really like the way they look on my arm. I love all your turn about you too. Okay. Um, I have a really nice butt. [00:30:00] Oh, that's a good one. I love my butt. Um, I definitely have junk in the trunk. Um, and I work it out a lot. Like it's my favorite place to work.
It's my favorite body part to work out. That's awesome. Um, I too was gonna say freckles. My red hair. Oh yes. Is like two of my like top favorite things about myself. Um, and I am going to say that I love that my body has given me four beautiful children.
I love that. Very powerful. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Tell, I mean, that was a lot. And I feel like we both opened up. Yeah, totally. Yeah, exactly. It's like we opened up like ew. Um, yes. So, and I don't, I hope that it [00:31:00] didn't open up Ew. And like for other people. So, um, Yeah, you should say three things out loud to yourself right now, wherever you're listening to it. Yes. Or if you don't want to say it out loud because you're like in a gym or something or you're at the store, say it in your head, write it down and like make it a practice.
Write post it notes all over your house about all the amazing things about yourself. And try to, because this is what I've been doing too and it, it's hard but it's helpful. Try to catch yourself like when you start to say those things and just like shift that. It's hard to do but you'll also recognize how much you probably say those things.
Yes. So, try that too. And, what do you have coming up? What do you want to tell people about it? Ooh, let's see. Um, my, my, my book on gender expression in early childhood is coming out, um, very soon. I believe that pre orders. What's the title? It is called Gender Expression and [00:32:00] Inclusivity in Early Childhood, A Teacher's Guide to Queering the Classroom.
Uh, pre orders I believe are starting November 1st, but obviously follow me wherever and I'll be updating that. Um, I'm planning a little mini book tour to go along with that, which should be exciting. Um, and I also have a book of poetry that just came out. I don't know why I'm showing it. We're not on. Um, I always forget that.
I always forget that because I can see you. I know. It's called Bloom. Um, and it's linked. Everywhere that all my stuff is linked so you can get that and check out some of my poems. Um, one of the poems in this book is actually, has actually become the prologue to a novel that I'm working on. So that's fun.
Oh, wow. Yeah, you could check out like a little creative side of me that has literally nothing to do with children or childhood. And it's just my own kind of thoughts and words and stuff. So you can check that out. But [00:33:00] yeah. You'll be hearing a lot more about my book in the next coming months, cause I'm going to start pushing that out.
But yeah, that's exciting. That is so exciting. Congratulations. I'm so happy. Thank you. I can't wait to read it. Thank you. I'm so excited. Amazing. Um, what do I have that's coming up that will be... Yeah, what do you have? I don't know, because when is this episode going to air? In a few weeks. I know, right? So, um, yeah, well, it'll be pretty soon.
Um... I will be opening up my Early Childhood Educator CEO course, so if you are ever wondering like how I created this whole digital side of my business, um, I walk people through a six month program. to do the same thing. So basically following all the same steps and I hold your hand through it and we do it together.
So it's step by step process. And, um, then it's a rinse and repeat. So it's six months. It's, and it takes you from, [00:34:00] um, like building your audience. To like finding your niche branding and all of that stuff and standing out. And then it brings you through creating a freebie and getting an email list, host set up and launching your freebie.
And then it goes into actually creating a whole mini course or a mini product to sell. Um, at like a lower price point, um, uh, to law and then takes you through the whole, like two, three week launch process that goes with that. So. Um, I'm going to be opening that up for enrollment, and that starts, the program starts December 1st, so we're going to start in November for that.
Um, and then in October, oh yeah, I have the Play Provisions Club, which is the monthly membership for educators to help explain play and like the different things around play to people. Outside the building. So [00:35:00] it's lots of resources to explain risky play, rough and tumble play, how children learn, um, literacy through play, how they learn math through play, all of those kinds of things.
So each month is a different topic. And then I send out a whole bunch of resources, actual like research, um, that's been pared down with quotes and things. And I send that out once a month, the first of the month, but we're opening that up for enrollment again, um, with some cool freebies. So that's fine.
That's awesome. Oh, also, if any of you listening are, like, interested in, like, doing this whole, like, Entrepreneur thing. You need to tell them about your other Instagram because I've been loving the things that you've been posting on that Instagram. Yeah, so my other Instagram is called undone entrepreneur.
Um, and yeah, it's just, it's kind of a little bit of an experiment for me. It's just fun. It's play. And yeah, I'm just kind of, it's just like the things in my brain about being an entrepreneur and the, there's tips and [00:36:00] tricks about. Content and email list building and freebies and all that kind of stuff.
And then there's also a course in there too that Um people can purchase to get started on their entrepreneurial journey as well. So lots of goodies Yeah, it's awesome. I've been liking it. I've been like noticing it more lately and i'm like, oh, this is so cool Oh, thank you Okay, well
That's it. Every single one of you think that with that long pause, they thought that that was the end? Yeah, right. If we're... Okay, that's it. That's it. Oh, you know, did you ever... I remember, I remember like getting, I remember like getting CDs when I was a kid in high school. And then like if you listened to the last song and you waited a long time, sometimes the artist would have like something special at the end.
That's what made me think of that. Oh, oh, that's cute. Okay. Well, bye bye everybody. Bye everyone.[00:37:00]
